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John, I've been attempting to
understand your book, World History and the Eonic
Effect, with a mixture of results, but I'm only
about half way through it. Parts of it I've really
enjoyed and found illuminating; you are a very
eloquent writer. But other sections I've struggled with, wishing
for more definitions, more examples, more data, and not
finding as much as I would like along these lines,
I periodically experience myself in a cloud of
confusion (this no doubt reflects the limitations of my
own background).
You are right, the account seems incomplete. It is
meant to be like that, like a rain cloud heavy with
potential, about to burst. However, for that very
reason the material has a fullness that other treatments
lack because they have to sell you on something. Instead
what I do is simply map out a totality. However, it is
quite easy to generate specific interpretations in many
fields, but our method does this wholesale, and it is time
for us to do that.
The model does its business and then stops: the prime
objective is to demonstrate a non-random pattern, then
show that to be a valid candidate for 'evolution', then
show how the relativity of our accounts of history and
evolution suggests, no, demands, that we find something
analogous in deep time, for earlier man. That is the eonic
effect shows a photo finish exception to this generalized
history-evolution. A component of historical/evolutionary
directionality has been missed. We can at the very least
beat Darwin to a stalemate, and then slowly pull ahead on
the grounds that, while our facts are incomplete, the
evidence of the Great Explosion, taken rightly, show us
most probably precisely that missing factor.
You are right, there needs to be more specific material
matching the argument to historical time periods, e.g. the
eonic history of Archaic/Classical Greece. But the scale
of the work expands exponentially, and we confront a
logistics problems. Still, the basic issues are dramatic
and any system showing coherence gives you an advantage to
its study. The day is coming when my 'idea for an
historical database' will bear fruit and combinations of
historical software and google type search engines will
facilitate the study of such an unforgivably huge system,
with thousands of components, each with its scholarly
literature. But til then you can get a very reasonable
bird's eye view armed with the basic model, rightly
understood.
I will try to reiterate some of the key issues, feel
free to be more specific sometime about anything that
doesn't make sense.. The text of World History and The
Eonic Effect is a struggle to describe a phenomenon of
vast size, with results that tend to dwell briefly on
isolated subjects and then pass quickly to something else.
It really needs about a one month course, and would make a
great way to study world history. Also, the text is really
four books in one, and I have put one of them online for
anyone who wishes to follow these remarks. So don't worry
if you don't fully complete the reading. You have four
books in one, and each reflects on the other as it starts
over again from a different angle. Also, you need an
active project of historical study to energize
abstractions that add up and then suddenly cloud the
brain. Reflect on how you could use this to study world
history, and/or restate the basic themes yourself.
One problem is that we are embedded in the phenomenon
under description, and that means we have to understand
the Peak Moments at a higher level than their sources!
Impossible? We must zoom in on these sources and refine
our understanding of what actually occurred. No simple
theory of the usual type will describe this phenomenon,
although its connection to a variant of certain types of
systems is also clear.
Basically, instead of a theory of evolution we
attempt first a theory of the evidence, toward which an
empirical evolutionary map is given to make the issue
specific. This makes the context science, at all points we
are confronted by historical facts, which we have to get
straight, on the centuries level. No grand speculations
like Darwin's applied to deep time are allowed. If you
don't have centuries level evidence for what you call
evolution, then you are a scam artist.
These three different things need to be kept separated,
and the question of a real theory of evolution on this
basis is indicated but not completed. HARD! The map
focuses on a periodization matrix of three transitions,
the eonic sequence; the theory of the evidence
considers a frequency hypothesis, which is
falsifiable; while the theory to explain the theory, so to
speak, the Theory of Evolution, passes through some very
dangerous, though fascinating, shoals, suffers several
shipwrecks, but recovers to another existence as a
post-Kantian, non-Hegelian philosophy of history, which
actually, in my mind, shows the way to a real 'science of
history'.
I am surprised you have done as well as you did. Good
show! The reason you feel left in the lurch a little is
that I disciplined myself to stay away from a commit on
basic metaphysical questions, the classic three being
divinity, soul, free will. The eonic pattern is too good
to waste on Still Another Eloquent Weltanschaung. Once we
see the eonic effect we lose our taste for metaphysics and
are stunned into silence. The eerie silence of the
mysterious presence of an evolutionary driver operating
over millennia doesn't call for purple passages anymore.
We just get on with the legwork til further notice. By and
by the more general conclusions will emerge. But we must
be reformed scientists, reformed philosophers, and most of
all reformed religionists. We must approach the limits of
our knowledge gradually over time, and in the meantime we
get a payoff from this approach, we actually see in
practice, if not theory, how evolution operates, at least
at the stage of man. We can see how a global system can
exist that can generate direction.
Kant's Big Three have ruined every attempt at a science
of evolution/history. Why not try the 'bread and water'
approach and not speculate. We attempt with one arm behind
our backs to 'do history/evolution' without committing on
the three classic questions. The question of divinity is
thus bypassed, although the result is neither atheist or
theist, check the material on the nth God Name Sequence in
the Introduction. You have to start from scratch there if
that's your game, a new extension to the sequence, etc...
We don't need theology anyway, we have something better.
Questions of soul won't go away, and I would allow a
disciplined exploration of, say, Buddhist views on 'soul',
subject to critique, but for our purposes the metaphysics
of soul can be reduced to the distinction of
hardware/software, that is, science already has its modus
operandi here, although noone says so in public. The
question of 'soul' simply means, Define The Organism, does
it have three dimensions of space, one of time, or does it
have a greater dimensionality, etc...
There are many approaches to that. But the point is
that we have to make do without a definition of the
organism! Anyone is free to amend this, solve the
case once and for all, I am not dogmatic, but the
positivist effort to do just that is a Serious Joke, very
important, but not one inch beyond Descartes. Kant saw the
desperation here, and produced an upgrade to Descartes,
and in Schopenhauer we see a version of that compatible,
sort of, with modern scientific thinking.
The crucial question is that of 'free will'. I think we
should adopt a Kantiann insistence on free will, on a
personal basis. But not in my model. We needn't assume
anything, and that suddenly shows us something. Since we
don't commit, we need a de facto equivalent that can have
a material basis, that's the point of my
self-consciousness topic. Self-consciousness can mimic
determinism or freedom, and pass between the two. That's
the beauty of the concept, one well grounded also in
reality. So our basic method passes through the gulch
between freedom and determinism. And yet it is a tale of
the evolution of freedom. We don't need 'free will' to
demonstrate an 'evolution of freedom'.
Note, then, in any case, that there is nothing to be
puzzled about, because we don't dwell on the metaphysics
of these three theory breakers. We scramble to the end of
the exposition without deciding on these three. At the end
I would recommend, as noted, a Kantian version of the free
will issue, as a decision consciously adopted, but the
actual model is designed chameleon style around
'self-consciousness' which is a rascal that can scramble
between freedom and determinism.
Nonetheless the book is about the evolution of freedom,
but set up in a way that doesn't require axiomatic beliefs
about free will. The way freedom arises, then, is it is
associated with the eonic sequence, and the way in which
the eonic pattern stages its own undoing, as the
historical proceeds from the evolutionary. And this is
exactly foretold in a kind of Kantian framework.
Thus we have restricted our metaphysical commitments,
but we are still just on the borderline, and the question
of metaphysical freedom, cautiously approached, and
disciplined by the model, is our one venture into the
twilight zone. A system with one extension. The
resemblance to a transformed chaos model is remarkable.
Before answering your next paragraph let me note the
codependency of theory and historical evolution. In
general, as we let 'evolution' proceed into the present,
and potential future, a strange thing happens. Our
methodology of science and philosophy shows 'eonic
periodization'. That means we are using the output of the
system to study that system, a complication that makes any
effort at exact science very difficult, in current forms.
We have to scrounge for some meta level. We can't just
pick and choose philosophical systems and apply those to
history. We must find the masterkey to all of them. That's
why I took a deep breath in mentioning Hegel. I wish to
bypass that, but Hegel grasped that the key to the Big
Theory, he didn't use those terms, was to explain how
Theory itself evolves. He spoke in terms of the history of
philosophy as a mini philosophy of history. You could make
the same argument for science and its history.
But for right now, I am mainly curious if
you could respond to or clarify what you see as the
relationship between two key themes in your book, the periodicity
of history and its directionality. Since there are
so many instances of periodicity in physical and
biological systems, I am not one to be surprised by
the eonic effect involving surges of creativity, freedom,
and self-consciousness at these large scale intervals.
Yes, this pattern which seems plausible or even
reasonable to me, despite the minimal repetitions
we have seen of this 2400 year cycle, in a sense--as you
suggest--indicates a non-random dynamic to history, and
thereby illustrating the limits of natural
selection, especially as it becomes entangled with
human history. You say that you want to just
describe this pattern, but I am anxiously looking
for your theories about the underlying dynamics
that it is driving it. You provide many hints,
indicating that you believe that there is a
directionality (I can relate with this), that it
somehow involves the periodic re-emergence of freedom, self-consciousness,
and creativity, for instance, in the axial age that simultaneously
took place in Greece, Middle East, India, and China. Reminds
me of Jung's notion of synchronicity as applied to the manifestation
of key archetypes. However, I suspect that this
must be much more complex than such simple
periodicity, but rather represents a kind of
strange attractor that only within broad parameters
repeats itself, but during each repetition,
progressively tracing out new territory. When
you speak of directionality in history, what do you
mean? How do you reconcile this with the
periodicity that you see in history?
Excellent questions. And I think towards the end here
you have answered your own question. One reason I seem
opaque here is that I am terrified a gang of New Ages will
run away with some concoctions of mystic eons or cycles. I
may as well feed hamburger to piranna fish. But the issue
of cycles is significant. People have noticed for
millennia that history seems to show cycles, but they
could never get it straight, for a reason that is now
clear. Five thousand years is the minimum data set to show
a system of three transitions, and two two cycles, with
the third showing recent start up. The endless confusion
over historical cycles is finished, I think, by my model.
Let's be empirically definite: you can use simple trial
and error and pattern matching. Result? we find a definite
periodicity of 2400 years. Why, I don't know, and since I
have only the absolute bare minimum of a three beat
sequence, I will be wary of taking that as a theoretical
known. So we simply catalog this fact, and note how
everything falls into place around it. Note that these are
falsifiable observations, and I take great pains to not
let them enter the eonic model itself which is designed to
work with any frequency hypothesis. We are just near
bedlam here, and it is important to be scientific
stretcher bearers for the madmen lost to this question.
There is a distinction between progressive cyclicity
and cyclical recurrence. The later shows the same event in
each cycle, the stuff of dismal 'cycles of history'
mythology. The former simply shows the progression
occurring in cycles. The cycle of Mondays is progressive
cyclicity. You can measure the GDP every Monday and it
will, we hope, have shown progression, although the
measure is cyclical. A locomotive chugging out cycles of
work shows progressive motion. In the eonic effect, the
'cycles', if they are that, show the clear signs of
progressive cyclicity, and I illustrate some key examples:
science itself, is twice correlated with the eonic
sequence. We see its twin birth in Greece, and the modern
phase. It acutally almost dies out in the middle period!
There's the answer to directionality and cyclicity: each
cycle reamps the processes that didn't make it in the
previous period. The system resets direction until the
process shows a stable independent growth. Note then that
science flunked a natural selection regime. A similar case
is visible in the discrete freedom sequence, the double
birth of democracy. Look at Greek democracy, it lasted
barely two centuries, really less than a century, although
it had an afterlife down til Roman times. And so on. The
system, thus, sets direction in cycles of fast
interruption.
Your reference to attractors is to the point. My
original studies were all in systems theory, and I
explored chaos, quantum formalism, all the complexity
theory stuff, self-organization. But then I changed gears
toward purely phenomenological mapping using periodization.
A turning point was Robert Rosen's Anticipatory Systems, a
nearly unread book, whose purport was to extend control
theory to anticipatory systems (the question is discussed
seriously by John Casti in one of his books). I didn't go
very far in that, but the point became clear that this
eonic system needs its own custom made theory, and that at
the same time it will be of the type of the
self-organization theory, and yet show a futuristic aspect
that is, if not teleology, then at least a direction
setting explorer. This approach, out of ear shot of
hysterical Christians, will prove the escape hatch to a
very beautiful theory of the evolution of religion. We can
see how the Old Testament describes, not the acts of God
in history, but a directional system settting up a future
potential that realizes in its middle interval as a series
of experiments from that starting point. That kind of
approach is developed toward the end of the book, although
I remain tightlipped, and hide the implications in jargon.
Maybe time to call a spade a spade. But if you look at the
chaos of monotheism, and yet see its historical meaning
and value for its time and place (eschewing the issue of
cramming atheism down people's throats in the name of
science) as a generator of a new stage of culture, the
infelicities of its actual realization suddenly make
(gruesome) sense. Why would a divine religion produce the
harebrained result of antisemitism? In my type of eonic
model the answer is almost instant: a discrete-continuous
system will tend to jackknife in the middle, and we see
that twice, once with Buddhism, once with monotheism. So
the payoff from this type of model is immediate. Note that
the 'eonic evolution of religion' shows two religions
appearing in concert in the Axial phase, along with much
else, and one is theistic while the other is atheistic. We
see that our system is deeper than the 'god idea'. It
plays a spectrum of possibilities. In general the key
theme here is that of the 'fundamental unit of analysis'
and the way in which this allows us to unify the evolution
of civilization as the 'evolution of the state' and the
'evolution of the religion', and see them as janus-faced
exemplars of a deeper dynamic. That could help
religionists to grasp their position of being sandbanked
in a 'secular' age, which is not so much beyond religion,
as sublated into a higher system that suddenly remorphed
into the modern realization.
In reading your book I am reminded of
an excellent book by the Nobelist Robert Fogel,
entitled The Fourth Great Awakening & The Future of Egalitarianism
(U. of Chicago, 2000), in which he applies his
discipline of "cliometrics" (quantitative
study of history) to understanding what he conceived
of as the periodic religious/spiritual awakenings in
American history, and how the ideas and values of
each were subsequently secularized and infused into
mainstream culture, often manifesting as periods of
progressivism. It almost seems to be a kind of "eonic"
effect,
but on an entirely different scale that you are
concerned with.
I can't do justice to your thinking here in a post
already a bit long, and will return to it, along with your
concluding query below about earlier stages of evolution..
But let me say quite quickly that this issue of
Protestants is definitely an 'eonic effect', in the
sense of being a 'relative transform, or eonic emergent'
process. I have cast my model in a secular vein, but
dwell at length in the book on the significance of the
Protestant Reformation, the original trigger point for the
rise of the modern, and the Enlightenment. Fogel's book I
would need to review again, I don't recall all the
details, but the Protestant component of the early modern
is often misunderstood. Note that the 'relative transform'
or eonic emergent, called Protestantism, is not the same
as Christianity in general. It is the first stage of the
rocket, so to speak, and travels in parallel to its
Enlightenment successor. The eonic model shows the
rationale for this. The future here is unclear, so I don't
predict, but I think that reductionist scientism is not
going to make it as a social philosophy, as people like
Kant rushing into the fray attempted to point out. His
proposals for 'religion within the limits of reason' have
never been taken up by secularists, but they show a viable
way to dispense with the baggage of traditionalism without
ending up in a watered down secularism.
A history of Protestantism is alien to modern
secularists, but it is filled with significant history (as
Weber well understood) as a generator of early modernity.
Our system is trying to shake loose its religious inertia,
but never abandons the core, which shows, by the way, a
group of Quakers seeding abolitionism. Quakers, clearly,
show Protestantism stripped to its basics, just on the
verge of being a non-religion, and yet with an emphasis on
moral action that is less than present in much of the
emerging capitalist society rapidly crystallizing. My
point is merely that these cycles of spiritual awakening,
so-called, invariably show their roots in the early modern
and the modern Protestant churches are sluggish remnants
of that early modern explosion. Much religious debate is
beside the point, and choking on theistic metaphysics. The
real issue is not the belief systems about God, but the
historic place of the generators of 'equality' and
equalization. Equalization is an evolutionary process, and
that is one reason the religions come into being. It is
sometimes easier to see this by studying Buddhism than
monotheism, and, in any case, the question also has a
secular component in the clear correlation of democratic
emergentism with the eonic effect.
Let me close there for now, except to say that
Diamonds' fascinating work seems to me to founder on
environmental determinism. It might be nice to redo his
model a la the eonic effect. I will discuss his book some
other time.
In the meantime, I don't think this qualifies as a full
answer to your problems arising in the study of the eonic
effect. I need to produce some more intuitive materials,
and would really need to do a whole world history on the
basis of the model. But the logistics of that are
intractable, and one needs a William MacNeil trained in
the eonic model. In the meantime, I will keep trying to
produce something that can better appeal to readers not
prepared for a Kantian blowout on world history.
I think, however, that the second edition does have
everything you need in compressed form, and a little
patience and reflection will unlock its secrets.
John Landon
the post concludes:
And your
work also, indirectly, reminds me of Jared Diamond's
Guns, Germs, and Steel, a rare macrohistorical
analysis, one that seems to minimize the role of
culture, explaining different patterns of social develop
in terms of environmental contingencies.
Seems to be a classic conflict theory, that echoes
a kind of social Darwinism, and thus, is a theory that
I
reject despite my being impressed with the cleverness of
his macrohistorical explanations, one's that
Marxists would relish. But he seems to leave out
human values, choices, aspirations, in favor the
accidents of history, power conflicts, and differential
access to the resources inherent in geography,
domesticable animals, grains, immunity
to contagious diseases and the like. As such, I
believe your work opens up whole new dimensions of
understanding of history, and perhaps even, its
implications for evolution. One concern I have
about your analysis: You make the case that
it is only with history, the last five thousand
years
or so, that we have sufficiently dense data to
understand evolution, but you might want to also
provide a more specific rationale for
extrapolating
back into deep time based on this most recent
experience. As we all know, any kind of
prediction or postdiction involving complex nonlinear
systems
is limited to a fairly short range. How are we to
believe that the principles/laws/or dynamics of
human history and evolution are at all the
same ones that would be relevant to much earlier stages
in evolution? The parameters that define
these Eonic cycles, and any underlying
directionality, may have changed and yet change again.
Please forgive me if I have in any way misunderstood or
mischaracterized
your ideas--this is simply my attempt to understand
them, and to obtain a
few additional insights from you, or anyone else, who
might have a better
grasp of these matters than I do.
Chris Hudson
Professor
School of Social Work
Salem State College
HOMEPAGE: http://www.salemstate.edu/~chudson/
E-MAIL: cghudson@[]
Update
Here is some more material in reply to your post on the
eonic effect.
In reading your book I am reminded of an excellent book
by the Nobelist Robert Fogel, entitled The Fourth
Great Awakening & The Future of Egalitarianism
(U. of Chicago, 2000), in which he applies his
discipline of "cliometrics" (quantitative
study of history) to understanding what he conceived
of as the periodic religious/spiritual awakenings in
American history, and how the ideas and values of
each were subsequently secularized and infused into
mainstream culture, often manifesting as periods of
progressivism. It almost seems to be a kind of "eonic"
effect,
but on an entirely different scale that you are
concerned with.
Continuing my response to your email on World
History and The Eonic Effect, I got a copy of
Fogel's The Fourth Great Awakening, fearful for
what I said before, since I suspected he is some kind of
neo-conservative, producing a piece on the evangelicals
in a generation when exploiting the radical history of
the early modern originals can be good anti-liberal
politics in the age of Reagan. The book is compelling
however, and engages the eonic effect material precisely
in its invocation of the Great Awakening.
So, this is prime stuff, and a good starting point for
discussion, raising the question of how we can extricate
anything from the labyrinth of ideology and politics.
The eonic pattern is actually a clear guide, in
graphically broad strokes, although our
interpretations are going to suffer limits as our
distance increases from the modern 'eonic transition'.
Note this point. The eonic model only speaks of the
'transition and divide', and then stops. The text stops
actually in 1848, the conclusion of the transition and
the onset of the 'mideonic era'. Chaotification
commences in short order.
Bur you picked a good issue for the eonic model, and it
raises the severe question of
conservative/liberal/radical egalitarianism, which
requires a thorough foundation in the full eonic model,
and more than that, the crucial point, detailed,
prolonged, and thorough study of the historical sources
from the early modern through the early nineteenth
century, followed by the tracks downfield of those
sources. Let me note that just getting the history of
the term 'liberal' straight is a big job, and yet
merely a starting exercise.
We are thus hardpressed to discuss current
political movements, i.e. at the less than one century
level, in relation to the eonic effect whose scale
is the Total Movement of the State since even before
King Tut. In fact, to put the matter in perspective,
type Narmer's Palette into Google and 'get a snapshot'
of state formation in the Year One, dynastic Egypt and
the question of kings and egalitarians starting from
that point. We see that the first priority is state
formation, which automatically creates 'primitive civil
society, not yet civil or social', i.e. everything out
of the scope of the first state formation. That means
Phoenicians traders, I guess, just beyond the reach of
the first states, soon the first empires. And so on.
Phase two of the eonic sequence shows attempted
refinements of primordial state formation, and we see
the first great eonic equalization episode (in the
eonic mainline) in the Greek city states, prime eonic
history, and if you pursue the issue of the Discrete
Freedom Sequence in the text you will see the majestic
architecture of 'emerging freedom' inside the eonic
pattern. We have the key to the Great Divide in modern
times, the era ca. 1800. Everything revolves around this
point, and we can easily trace modern political
propagandas from this point, roughly. We must of
course be wary of these terms, and the differentiation
of 'freedom' and 'equality' in modern ideologies is a
possible complication/trap.
I have given a place to Protestantism in the eonic
sequence, but let us not forget that equalization was
primarily a secular achievement, and the place of
Christianity in that is confusing because, while we do
see the Second Great Awakening taking firsts in
abolitionism, it does not follow that we can equate a
subset of evangelicals or Quakers with Christianity as a
whole, which is a sluggish conservative stream.
And let us not forget the real history of the
Reformation. Luther created a revolution, of sorts, but
he also made his deal with the Princes of his time,
while nearby we see the thwarted German Social
Revolution of 1525, and the figure of Thomas Munzer, who
was burnt at the stake. This cluster of incidents almost
explains everything about what is to come and the
gruesome effort of the far left to ditch Christianity as
a fraud in the realm of equalization. It will always
preach equality, and always pay its dues to the princes.
Karl Marx, a prime 'late Protestant', said enough. The
far left suffered spectacular failure, so we are back to
getting equality as a gift from the 'fourth
awakening'. I will believe when I see it.
The resolution to these issues is to stick to the
highlevel eonic sequence and get straight the basic
backbone of the eonic pattern, that before trying to
decipher the outcomes two centuries downfield from the
Great Divide.
To summarize, I merely wish to broaden the scope of the
discussion and justify the ideology of freedom in terms
of the macro sequence of the eonic effect. That already
spells trouble with postmodern attacks on the
metanarratives of freedom, but the second edition
actually turns this postmodern theme on its head and
justifies a post-Hegelian 'metanarrative' in explicit
terms. You can follow that in the text if you like. My
point is merely that the affirmation of the eonic
sequence invokes the ideology of freedom, and at least
with modern conservatives the point requires no defense,
since these conservatives tend to be classical liberals,
if hesitant egalitarians. Not so with the true
reactionaries against modernism who were rife in the
attack on the French Revolution, etc.... We are seeing
that now in the Islamic world. Immense forces are
assaulting modern freedoms.
This creates a basic context for discussion. But it
needs a bit more development!!!! The point is that we
are talking, not continuous history, but eonic history,
and we soon discover that the crucial point, as noted, is
the transition and its divide. The modern transition
reflects that beautifully with the Protestant
Reformation to start the transition, and the
Enlightenment and French Revolution to complete it, with
the system shifting to the far left after the Great
Divide. None of this is chance, and it takes time and
study to grasp (it can be quite unsettling) the depth of
mechanization of what we take as our modern history. The
remnants of the Protestant Reformation are so diverse
(most did not even shape up to oppose slavery) as to be
impossible to easily classify.
The problem here is that Fogel is an anomalous
conservative, I would suppose, and, as I fast
discovered, the same Fogel who wrote Time on the
Cross, a book that stirred up a huge controversy
some time back, and I would like to review that to
figure out where he is coming from with his charming but
suspect thesis of a Fourth Awakening. These are severe
problems, though not fatal ones, and I would enjoy this
point/counterpoint as a further study. But there is
a bare single index entry for Marx, and to say that the
Third Great Awakening at the beginning of the twentieth
century is a kind of Protestant formation is to me a
misreading of the facts, although it is certainly true
that standard leftist history needs a correction to
point to the way in which the Protestant formations have
quietly performed a lot of mule work in practice for
what the revolutionary claimed for itself even as it
bungled the job. These are vast questions, but I merely
raise a question mark at Fogel's Fourth Great Awakening
if this is clearly mixed up with the 'Reagan Revolution'
and in a period when equality went downhill even as the
Fogel in the right wing think tanks concocted this
conservative egalitarian thesis, complete with quotes
from Himmelfarb on the back jacket. So I am suspicious,
but still intrigued by this clever piece, which may
merely mean that Fogel is a liberal in disguise trying
to keep the current neo-conservative fix honest on basic
issues. I must have missed something here, because Fogel
gets quite tricky.
So in a nutshell we have to expand the scale of analysis
to see equalization in the context of world
history, and to see the way that the rise of the modern
begins to show the maturing of the primordial state,
only to suffer at once the contradictions pointed to by
such as Karl Marx. Fogel's thesis is tricky because the
terms of the discussion are so laden with ideological
position points in the American electoral system and its
current neo-conservative fixers that it is hard to take
things at face value. In any case the place of the
so-called First and Second Great Awakenings is fairly
clear. But let me reiterate that we can't grant kudos to
Protestantism for abolitionism. We can only note that subsets
of this movement have appeared at crucial times to do
specific things, while the general stream remained inert
and passive, reacting against change.
Anyway, I hope that helps, and this could be a long
discussion/analysis. But we see the larger architecture
in its relation to the downfield periods subsequent to
the transition periods, leaving us to wonder at the
future.
Looking at the Axial Age we notice that within several
centuries an immense period of advance faded away and
almost ceased to have any effect. This Hellenistic and
later decline becomes clear from the eonic dynamics. We
are in a similar situation now, and must wonder how long
the great achievements of early modernity will last.
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